Ellsworth Planning Board Approves Short Street Subdivision Revision

[0:10] John DeLeo, chair: Anyway, it was a great trip. I was gone for two weeks. [0:13] Rick Lyles, vice chair: Wait, listen, do you over... [0:15] John DeLeo, chair: My God! Seriously? Yeah,. There were times that we weren't in the city. Okay, so you're going to do that? Okay. [0:24] Lisa LaRue, member: Joe, I did, but... Give me space. I think it's better here. You're bothering me. [0:28] Rick Lyles, vice chair: Especially when we have a rule that says... Okay, I'll call it over. [0:30] Lisa LaRue, member: The City of Elsa Planning Board meeting for October 7, 2026. Introductions. [0:37] John DeLeo, chair: Lisa LaRue, member. Member? Vince Messer, member. John DeLeo, chair. Rick Lyles, vice chair. Rick Haney, member. Mark DePayne, staff [0:50] Lisa LaRue, member: introductions. Oh, [0:54] Brittany Merrill, city planner: wait. Brittany Merrill, city planner. Robert Grant, code officer. [0:59] Lisa LaRue, member: Andrew Lerlo, deputy code officer. Okay. Item number two, adoption minutes from the September I have no second, 2026 regular meeting. Any additions, deletions? You had a point? [1:12] Rick Lyles, vice chair: No, I'm done. Okay. Point's been taken care of. Okay, is there a motion? Motion. Second. All in favor? Item number three, revision. We're gonna eliminate some words, too. [1:28] Lisa LaRue, member: Revision to a previously approved major subdivision entitled Short Street Subdivision for applicant and owner. Thanks, Chad. C2, J2, K2, LLC. Proposal is to reconfigure lots 16 and 14. The subject properties are approximately 0.86 acre lot and a 0.315 acre lot located on Short Street, tax map 128, lot 16, tax map 129, lot 14 in the commercial zoning district. Someone here representing the applicant. If you guys could you guys come up to the table please. [2:07] Mark DePayne, staff: I'm just a spectator. Oh no. [2:13] John DeLeo, chair: Spectators buy beer. Pardon? Spectators can still buy beer. [2:20] Mark DePayne, staff: You're pretty well covered it. If you can look at your subdivision plan it will be easier to explain. Okay we've got a lot eight and lot 9 of the original short street subdivision lot 8 would like to convey to lot 9 the point 1 acre parcel giving them a total of 0.4 to 5 acres they'd also like to convey the right-of-way to the northeast of that point 1 acre lot that will go to lot nine also do you see where that is it goes out to route one sort of a trapezoid yes so that will be a right-of-way area and to the south of that the point one acre will be a lot conveyance lot nine will release the parking easement within lot 8 45 by 69 I guess they will release their current parking easement and they will be conveyed the land in the point 1 acre and the right-of-way crossing lot 8 that goes out to Short Street the 50-foot right-of-way will be released lot nine ten and eight have a right-of-way within lots eight and ten coming off route 150 foot right-of-way that won't change and lot nine will continue to have their parking easement within lot ten so [4:17] Rick Lyles, vice chair: you move some stuff around and eliminate some ownership of the some of the easement stuff [4:26] Mark DePayne, staff: the easements yes and lot nine sherwin-williams their tractor trailers come in and this will enable them to come in off route one the 50 foot right away and make a swing around and be within their land if lot 8 was to be sold in their current configuration it could really put a squeeze on the show and Williams deliveries but this will enable them to stay within their land in a curb cut stays there's no curve no change in the curb cut yeah lot 8 off Short Street will remain unchanged no curb cuts, no [5:09] Rick Lyles, vice chair: new curb cuts, and why is it called eight, nine in some places and 14 and 16? Well, the 14 and 16 goes [5:20] Mark DePayne, staff: by your tax maps. Okay, eight and nine refer to the Short Street subdivision. I just felt it was easier to look at my subdivision plan rather than me trying to explain them tax maps, and okay, in [5:33] Rick Lyles, vice chair: between two maps, that's all. Okay, so not with Sandy, I was confused by that, but [5:40] Mark DePayne, staff: yes this has been reviewed by the sherwin-williams people we've gone back and forth a little bit getting it to their satisfaction to make sure the trailer trucks can turn so everyone involved is in agreement so this is primarily for sherwood williams to make the [5:59] John DeLeo, chair: that it's space for the tractor trailer again? [6:02] Mark DePayne, staff: Yeah, I think it's a win-win here. There's really no, as far as I can see, no downside to this. It improves the Sherwin-William access. It improves their lot quite a bit. It gives them some more room. [6:21] Rick Lyles, vice chair: And this is a question that is kind of general, not just for this one, but it wasn't much to talk about here, so I thought I'd think about other stuff. My question is with the, with these lots, who checks it for closure and so forth, you know, surveying closure? Okay, so that's all done. Is it double checked by the registered deeds [6:43] Mark DePayne, staff: Or anybody, or they just say, you know, I sign in blood here, and that means that it is, it's closed, and okay, that's what you do. Yeah, working in AutoCAD, you pretty well can see what's true enough, and it's easier, you see. But it's like any computer, what's put in comes out, or if it's wrong, you just have to be aware of it, and that just comes with experience. [7:14] Rick Lyles, vice chair: But there's no need for us to check it though. You can if you want. [7:17] Rick Haney, member: On, not today, maybe next week. Okay, this doesn't diminish in any way the parking for the secondary building and anything for lot eight. Doesn't hurt them, they're happy with it. Yes, the owner parking, no. [7:40] Mark DePayne, staff: Having that right away released will actually help them with parking off Short Street, that helped freeze up the lot quite a bit. [7:53] Lisa LaRue, member: Just kind of makes you wonder who designed this to begin with. [7:58] Mark DePayne, staff: Well, I don't think they had in mind the tractor-trailers coming in, making the loop. Yeah. [8:05] Lisa LaRue, member: As long as everybody's happy. Any comments from the staff? Any questions from the board? No public hearing? No public hearing? [8:34] Rick Lyles, vice chair: So, I make a move to approve, yeah, approve the major subdivision application entitled Short Street Subdivision for applicant and owner C2J2K2, oh, see that's like R2D2, right? It's a multiple. Pretty much. R2D2? Case here? Yeah. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? [8:59] Mark DePayne, staff: We're done. Thank you. Do you sign this tonight? Oh, we can. Yep. [9:06] Lisa LaRue, member: Do you want to take a retirement break? Sure. Yep, we can sign it. [9:13] Mark DePayne, staff: We just need one copy for the registry first. [9:30] Rick Lyles, vice chair: Maybe they don't want to test the closure on the lots. My first job was writing legal descriptions. Okay, [14:18] Lisa LaRue, member: Cycle. Go back on camera. [14:25] Brittany Merrill, city planner: So we have a planning board workshop to schedule. [John DeLeo: I responded.] So I didn't hear quite enough from enough people about the 14th, so now we're looking at the 15th. So we need a week to notice, basically. So we're looking at Thursday the 15th at 5.30. The week after that, we can do Monday or Tuesday. I'm out at a planning conference Wednesday through Friday. So 19th and 20th, the council chamber, I believe, is booked both of those nights. But we could do it in either the auditorium or the fire department. The [15:14] Rick Lyles, vice chair: Only problem that I had, which I mentioned to you, is that there is a candidate's forum thing on Thursday the 15th, and that is for House District 13. Now, there may not be anybody that even goes to that, but who knows. I mean, I kind of feel kind of funny, though, having an official city meeting opposite. You know, now it's not City Council, but it's, but if it is, it is the will of the people. All right. [15:52] Rick Haney, member: On Thursday I would be only able to make it virtually, not in person. I can't make it at all Thursday. Well, what are the other dates, the next? [16:04] Brittany Merrill, city planner: Week, Tuesday the 20th would be the next available. I could do the 19th, either one. [16:13] Rick Lyles, vice chair: works for me so you want you at the 19th at 530 let's do Monday the 19th at 530 [16:26] Brittany Merrill, city planner: There is a council meeting that night, so maybe that's not the best night. Tuesday? Yes, there's an ACPC workshop in this room that night, but we can move to auditorium or the fire department. [16:43] John DeLeo, chair: You get to sit in the fire engines? Yeah. You want to use the sirens? [16:49] Brittany Merrill, city planner: So, 20th then? The 20th, Tuesday at 5:30. Location, TBD. I'll confirm that it's the fire hall, but yeah. [16:58] Rick Haney, member: And is that fire walls or campground? [17:01] Brittany Merrill, city planner: That is for the campground. Okay, and that gives me a little bit more time to. [17:13] Rick Lyles, vice chair: And will you have stuff for us be that before then? [17:17] Brittany Merrill, city planner: Yes, I will try to have things out a week ahead of time. Great, at the very latest. Super, I'll give you a couple extra days. Yeah, perfect. Any objection? [17:35] Lisa LaRue, member: No, good for me. Got it in ink. Tuesday. Tuesday. That's all I got. [17:43] Rick Haney, member: Except thank you. What's the next step with the by-law stuff? [17:49] Brittany Merrill, city planner: By-law is I have to finish up the draft and get it out to you for another review. And if we want to have another workshop on it, we'll schedule that. And if not, we can put it on the next agenda to vote for. [18:00] Rick Haney, member: But that kind of takes a back burner to the campground. [18:07] John DeLeo, chair: Okay. The workshop. Okay. On now the 20th, the subject matter is? [18:14] Brittany Merrill, city planner: The 806 performance standards for campgrounds in general. Okay. And I'll have stuff to you about a week ahead of time. Great. Stuff being a rough draft and council orders. Anything else? [18:32] Lisa LaRue, member: That's all I'm going to ask. No, I'm not. Power. Any questions from the board? I'll speak now if I ever hold a speech. Stop. That motion is adjourned. So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. Second.