Topsham Select Board accepts CPIC resignations, ends Recode committee

[0:26] Select Board Chair: I think they're live tonight on the conference select board. It's October 1st, 2026, and we are broadcasting from the Long Wait Russell meeting room. To please rise to the pledge of allegiance to [0:42] Speaker B (unidentified): the flag of the United States of America and to the republic which will give us a chance, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:58] Select Board member: Mike Lavi, Ann Callahan, Roland Tufts, David Kennedy, and Ryan Holmes. President and Pleasant. All the President and Councilors. Family is important. The Halloween Parade will be at the Thompson Beer Mall on Saturday, October 31st, starting at 4.30pm. Come and join the fun. The new apartment complexes are making good progress. The official groundbreaking The groundbreaking for the loop-in at Union Park was this week, and they're progressing quickly on the site work. The first of the four buildings that will be the residence at Park Drive is also almost complete and about three-quarter rented. And interestingly, Dan Catlin was telling me that many of the people taking out apartments there are Topson residents that are downsizing, and so there may be some more single-family homes coming on the market soon. soon save the date on Wednesday November 4th will be a public meeting to review the close to final design for the Tedford Road sidewalk slash rebuild we'll post the plans once we receive them back from the engineer and give a more formal notice of the meeting but we just wanted to let people know that date had been set aside and finally all non-emergency services will be closed on Monday October 12th for Columbus slash indigenous people's day that's it thank you voting planning reports [2:15] Select Board Chair: reports we have none tonight public comment nothing okay does anyone have any correspondence to report no I do not sir okay thank you we have no adjustments to the agenda consent calendar approval the minutes of the regular select board meeting held on September 17th 2026. 26. fair motion thank you right well exactly all in favor okay no public hearing 2697 any appropriate action to approve the new general assistance ordinance appendices is this public oh yes okay sorry about that it is public hearing okay [3:16] General Assistance Administrator: so every october general assistance they do a new ordinance an appendix for the year this is just they've gone up on some of their pricing for help that's about it Are there any questions, comments? Yeah. [3:37] Select Board member: I'm wondering, I was reading through a lot of this stuff and it generated some questions, but can you help all of us understand how GA works, specifically the qualifying standards for if someone were to come in? [3:55] General Assistance Administrator: Yep, so they have to fill out an application based off their income the application produces and then if they qualify, if their income is, if their bills, their payments are more than what their income is, then they could qualify for general assistance. [4:14] Select Board member: And I see that I'm looking at page 27 of our agenda tonight, but it's based, is the general assistance maximums reference sheet and it lists all the different maximums that you could go with yes and I'm looking just for anybody that wants to look this over I'm trying to clarify this just so they don't think oh my god that's a lot of money that people can get overall but am I safe to assume that the overall maximums would be added in all these different categories like a housing maximum of food maximum the heating fuel the overall maximums electric yes ten supplements so a family of four if we were to add all those up totals roughly I think roughly eight thousand dollars a month or so that's not necessarily what people get but I you know I'm trying to help clarify this situation yeah that'd be we can explain a little bit better when people get [5:14] General Assistance Administrator: Yeah, questions. So usually people don't come for all of their bills. It's usually a certain bill that they're looking to help for. And then that's when we look at that family problems and we see if they do qualify or not. [5:27] Select Board member: Is there ever a situation where somebody wouldn't qualify for all of these things? [5:34] General Assistance Administrator: Not really, because they do have an income, so they would be making some money, so they wouldn't qualify for everything. [5:40] Select Board member: Perfect. That is a great clarification. Yes. I appreciate that, thank you. [5:45] Speaker F (unidentified): Anything else no thank you it wasn't that bad no all [5:55] Select Board Chair: Right we've got this consideration and we have [6:00] Select Board member: A motion on this we have two motions for this one for the appendices and then one for the state so the first one I make a motion pursuant to 22 main revised statutes section 43051 the municipal office of the municipality of tops of maine after notice and hearing make a motion to amend the municipal general assistance ordinance by repealing and replacing appendices a through h of the existing ordinance with the attached dependencies a to h included in the agenda which shall be in effect from October 1st 2026 through September 30th 2027 this amendment will be filed with the main Department of Health and Human Services pursuant to main revised statute section 43054 and a copy of the ordinance and amended appendices shall be available for public inspection at the municipal office along with the copy of 22 main revised status [6:57] Speaker B (unidentified): That is chapter one six one second. Well, exactly. [7:03] Select Board Chair: Well done. Sorry to send it all in favor. [7:08] Speaker B (unidentified): One more next. [7:12] Select Board member: Pursuant to 22 main revised statutes 43051, the municipal officers of the municipality of Tops of Maine, after notice and hearing in that the attached general assistance ordinance with appendices in its entirety. This ordinance shall supersede and replace all previous ordinance versions. A copy of this ordinance will be filed with the Maine Department of Health and Human Services pursuant to Maine Revised Statute section 43054 and shall be available for public inspection at the municipal office, along with a copy of 22 Maine Revised Statute, chapter 1161. [7:52] Select Board Chair: Second. We'll get second, all in favor? All right, there is no unfinished business. There is no old business on to new business. 2698 consideration in the appropriate action to recognize the treasure, Patty Williams, with a proclamation for her long tenure of serving the town. So we have here a proclamation approved by the board and I will read it out so everyone online can see it as well and you know should we give me a copy of us but anyway sorry so it's October 3rd 2000 well it's not it's October 1st that's not what he says whereas Patricia Patty Williams began taking minutes through the town of Thompson in 1988 88 and whereas patty's almost four decades of service included taking accurate minutes for the select board the planning board the zoning board of appeals historic district commission board of assessment review and whereas in addition to being extremely conscientious about her minutes patty was always friendly and cheerful sometimes even bringing in freshly baked applies good deal all right whereas patty now desires to retire we'll vote on this [9:17] Select Board member: No she gets to retire this is too they don't have to go home so debate them all right now [9:23] Select Board Chair: Therefore, the Tops of Select Board wishes to recognize and express gratitude to Patty for her long and dedicated service for the town of Topsum, and in the witness of we here on to set our hands and cause the seal of Thompson to be fixed this third day of October 2026, and it's signed by all the select board members. Patty, thank you very much. In the years I've been here, you've met every one of these attributes, and your service has been extremely beneficial, and it is very much appreciated. Thank you. Patty, I [10:06] Select Board member: have one more thing to that as well. We received an email. I thought about doing it during correspondence, but I think this would be more appropriate. We received an email from Dan Flagg and asked us kindly to read an email for a public comment for Patty, but his email had stated, I would like to submit my public comment on agenda item 26-98 on the recognition of Patty Williams's service to the town since 1988. This is a well-deserved recognition for Patty. I worked with her at Wright Pierce for over 12 years prior to her retirement after a distinguished career at Wright Pierce. I also participated on the planning board during her tenure with the town. Patty is a true professional and the town has been fortunate to have had her dedicated services all these years. This recognition by the select board for Patty's service to the town is well-deserved. I also want to add that Patty was an excellent coworker at Wright Pierce and her roots are based in Topsoek. [11:06] Select Board Chair: Any other comments? Okay. 2699, consideration of any appropriate action to authorize the extension of the closure of Thompson Lane to December 15th, 2026. [11:21] Select Board member: Scott Galant's here tonight. He asked to extend it because of difficulty getting windows, and he's agreed to that he'll be responsible for plowing the open end of it during the closure. Closure and he's also talked to his neighbor Christina Slocum who's the only other person actually affected by this end being closed and she's okay with them. Yes, that is all true. [11:45] Speaker H (unidentified): They were held back so they don't come in until the day after, so then I'm gonna have, then I'm gonna put a man in. I think I'll have it done before December 15th, but I just thought that'll [12:00] Speaker F (unidentified): be before it starts to snow, and if it does, I hope they can do. We have written or verbal consent to [12:08] Select Board member: anybody in the town of your neighbor? I don't have written consent from Christine and she was here. [12:14] Speaker H (unidentified): Before, so I know she's fine. Yeah, she likes having a close action because her daughter plays out there. Oh well, that's good. So she, you know, she's in her brother. I told her that her daughter can [12:27] Speaker F (unidentified): playing the five in my mind parking one instead of the street. Yeah, the only question I have, sir, [12:33] Select Board member: is about the sidewalk out front of the park because there was part close the snow comes is that going to be tended to are we still going to be able to take care of all that'll be anything any snow related i would take care of it okay just want to make sure that it included the closure in front of the building as well. I would like to make a motion that we authorize the extension of the closure of Thompson Lane to December 15th, 2026. All right. [13:00] Select Board Chair: Bergen segment, all in favor? [13:04] Speaker F (unidentified): Carries. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. [13:07] Select Board Chair: All right, 26 100 consideration, any appropriate action on the resignation of CPC [13:16] Select Board member: and the future of Rico, and you received them copies of the resignations that we've got from CPIC committee, which brings us to the point we have to figure what we're going to do going forward. There talk to our planning department and there is no one that feels competent to basically educate for the form-based code because the planning board is about to have a session starting next week and they're going to be coming up with their questions about form-based code. You know, can you accomplish the vision and the comprehensive plan without form-based code? Can you do it other ways? Why is it important to have it? So the plan was to have our consultants, they were going to develop their questions next week, then the consultant was going to participate in November and try to answer their questions. So certainly the planning board could decide they want to do that. If they do that, we're going to spend probably about another three thousand dollars or so on the consultant. If it's a foregone conclusion of the planning board that they don't want to have form-based code which pursue because of some comments made at the last meeting it appears that may be the case and that may have been in part what triggered cpix resignation that if they say we don't think we've been convinced of this don't spend your money we'd rather move on to other pieces then we would not bring the consultant in and we save the three thousand the next question that comes up is what do we do now because if we're Not going to have form-based code and we are going to keep the planned commercial developments was one of the decisions that was made so far. We're going to need to have significant revisions done to the current draft of the code, one or the current draft to the record I should say. One of the nice things about the current draft or the new code was that it's easier to read that and I think it's probably easy to understand, but if we decide to make this many changes it's going to cost us a minimum tens of thousands of dollars to now do another draft of the recode and we may not be able to find someone to write it, because if we say we don't want form-based code, we're probably going to find the consultant that wrote most of it doesn't want to be involved. The planning director tried to see if she could find another consultant last spring that wanted to kind of pick it up in the middle of the project, and she was unsuccessful with that. that so kind of what we need the decisions we need to make for staff's purposes are we trying to revise the Rico draft which we don't think we can do without the consultant and if we need to rewrite that again to take out things like form-based code it's going to be tens of dollars if instead the method that the planning board says they would prefer is to try and take some of the things that have been agreed to the planning directors working on a list of things that came up at the joint sessions or even before the joint session some of them, and take that we could offer to the planning board that we take that list to them, they tell us which ones they want us to try to prepare drafts to the current code for, and staff would prepare those drafts and do redline versions, and because it would be working what we already have as opposed to trying to rewrite pre-code. And you might say why is it that the planning board you know is the ones making all these decisions, it's because of our ordinance, our ordinance says that any zoning changes have to be recommended by the planning board, so ultimately for the planning board to recommend something they need to be happy with what's going in. So at this point that's kind of why most of my memo focused on putting the decision in the planning board's lap, because ultimately I think they're the ones that need to recommend the changes. So certainly these may not be the only paths that could be followed, but as you see in my memo what I recommend is we go to the planning report you ask me to go to the planning board next week at their scheduled hearing and ask them what their preferences if they still want to continue looking at form-based code in which case they can do what they're planning to do that night come up with questions and we'll have the consultant come in November and answer them if they don't think that their mind could be changed that they want to go with form-based code then the decision might be made that night that we're not going to write those questions instead we'll tell you which things we want you to start working on for or changes to the current code, we basically got about four months where the planning board can be processing changes and get things still ready in time for town meeting. So like, for instance, one of the things that is on the planning director's list is the fix of the uses table. And there was a lot of discussion in quite a few decisions, at least we believe, made at some of the meetings a couple months ago. to go so that would be one that Sky the planning director has said she could quite easily prepare she'd use it to the use table in the spreadsheet get that ready for to go other things that the planning board talked about in context of recode was minimum lot sizes there were some changes that they seemed like they were signed on I say seemed like because I think we still need confirmation of them that the things the planning director believes they decided on the that they did but she's got a list like I said run by him so we could just processing those changes they probably wouldn't need to do a special meeting a month anymore they could just take a bite at a time at a regular meeting and then have hearings on all the ones that they think they've approved say in March or something to get it ready for town meeting there are we're making good progress on the battery storage changes that what we would need to do for the battery storage and I expect that the energy committee maybe as Soon as the October meeting is going to have something that they're going to start taking public comment on their own on the battery storage stuff before, and so that should be ready to hand over the planning board in January, so that would be a piece that could go. So I think there's plenty of things the planning board can be working on, but believe it or not, time is starting to run short, so we need to figure out what our plan is, and especially if we're trying to rewrite the last draft of the repo. there won't be time to do that for town meeting but i think we can we would have time to have staff prepare amendments for some of the things that the fighting board and cpic met and they were just the decisions that were made so far on that stuff i want to take a minute to recognize Susan Ray Reeves Susan has worked on this all of CPIC but especially Susan 's been doing this for six years before that she has put her heart and soul into this and done a ton of work on it and I know in some ways This is, I think, disappointed, disappointing, and I want apologize to Susan on behalf of the town, because Susan and I were talking about six months back and she had a talk with Rodman Lancet, our former planning director, and Rod said to Susan that if he had stayed at the town, his intent was to keep the planning board involved in the process all along. And so, and by recognizing Susan, I also am not throwing stones at the planning board, because if you look at it from their perspective, they ended up. With a 200-page document they had to absorb and process, and they had concerns, and they were also concerned about, you know, other unintended consequences, and as I think we know from much smaller zoning changes, we often have to come back and change them again. So I don't, I don't think there's bad guys here. There, I think there's different perspectives, and I don't think necessarily, or I don't think any of this was a bad idea. I think I remember first month of Musky school and one of the things they. Taught you is that what they call incremental change, do things in small pieces, it's certainly the most likely way to make it succeed. So I think Rod's point was good, and I think, you know, through no fault of our own, we've been through how many planning directors and how many planners, and we didn't have the consistency data that I think probably needed to shepherd this process. And Susan was really the only consistent person throughout the process, and she certainly worked harder on it than a lot of staff members along the way. So I want to thank her and CPIC for all their efforts. And I, again, I'm sorry this isn't coming out differently. Differently, but if I look at this from the best interest of the town, unfortunately I think it's probably not to keep spending tens of thousands of dollars rewriting codes that never get anywhere, because we're almost at the time we have to do our next comprehensive plan within the next couple of years. I think probably what makes the most sense is for us to again offer to the Planning Board, because it's their choice based on our ordinances, but I think probably makes sense to take the things that People have agreed to along the way and have staff prepared most for the current code. So my recommendation is that we basically go to the Planning Board and let them [23:12] Speaker B (unidentified): Give us some instruction on how they want to do the changes. I have a couple comments. I think [23:18] Select Board member: That we need to separate 26 100 because we want to take action on the resignation of CPIC and the future of Recode. I think we need to look at the resignation of CPIC as one piece and then the future of Recode as another piece. And the reason I say that is with everyone resigning, the CPIC team is an ad hoc committee, so that in essence makes it dissolve. And so with everyone gone, so I'm suggesting that at this point, that we let it dissolve and not fill those positions until we decide what we're doing in the future. And then also I wanted to just say, I brought a copy of the Planning Board Powers and Duties, and it says, to review the comprehensive plan is their job, to recommend land use guidelines for municipalities in the following areas, subdivision regulation, zoning ordinance, site plan review regulation, shoreline zoning, administer planning activities through effective ordinances and regulation, regulating, guiding growth. Growth, so it's already clear what their role is. And so I don't know how you all feel about taking this ad hoc committee and just letting it dissolve at this point until the board decides at a future time they want to reissue a new charge and start up the community again, but it is an ad hoc committee and with everyone resigning I would say it's dissolved. Comments. Well I noticed [24:49] Select Board Chair: We've advertised for a member saying we apply for any membership plan not in the past two weeks, so if you look at the second part of that, you know, I think that the next steps are having a time manager interact with the planning board as we talked about in terms of those items that appear to be in their mutual agreement when we receive that number, right? And so I don't know. [25:17] Select Board member: How you can object that in terms of emotion, we're just going to have a screen split up. We do need to decide, we do need to decide if you think it's going to dissolve and we're going to move on that, because either we have to post the positions and have them built or just let. [25:33] Speaker B (unidentified): It just follow until we want to do a new charge, so you want to add 26 out of 101 the discussion of the future. I don't know that we need a separate number. [25:46] Select Board member: I guess technically the agenda didn't really talk notice that, well, it's both in there. It says appropriate action on the resignation of CPC and the future of Rico. That's true, all right, so but it should really be two separate motions, I would think. Where do you want to stand on? I agree. I have a few thoughts that I've been jotting down. I've been listening to everything. To me, this is a large scale thing that we've been addressing for quite some time, and I want to recognize that the work really started from the comprehensive plan that happened in 2019. Correct. And in the comprehensive plan, many things were stated. A lot of work went into that. A lot of feedback from our town and members of our town went into that. Considering that one of the ideas was to propose form-based code and we called it Recode, and we were going to move into this idea that we could, we could move into this new thing that's going to really promote what the comprehensive plan really wanted. I want to also express that I think that's just one of many different possibilities and outcomes to accomplish what is asked of us in the comprehensive plan, so I don't want to negate the form-based code side of things, but I do, I do want to know, I. want to recognize that it was a lot of work to get us to this point if it's not working out with that doesn't mean that we stop the work you know there 's been many things that have happened that positive in our town because of the comprehensive plan we've had We've had additional sidewalks added. We've had additional crosswalks added. We've had speed humps in our town added to places. A lot of changes are coming through our town currently, and this is an important topic. This is something that we need to have specific attention on because the changes are imminent, but how quickly are these things changing and how well we will adapt. It's like what Mark said, little bits and pieces at a time is the best way to make it most successful. And at the same time, we do have almost 10,000 people in our town that reside here. And all of the 10,000 people have very mixed views on what they want and how they want it. And there are a fraction of people that would like to see the form-based code. There's a fraction of people that would like to see the current code. There are people that would like to prioritize reducing the tax burden. And there's ways to do that. All of these things form together. I just want to reiterate that the work has to continue, however it goes, whether CPIC is part of this conversation or not, or if we bring on new members into the committee, or if we dissolve this committee. The work must continue. We don't go through the process of spending lots of money on consultants for a comprehensive plan to do nothing with it. So I think it's important that the planning board hear that and hear that the work must go on, and that they continue thinking about the best interest of the town and in the ways that we can also provide the best outcome for everyone here, and that means looking at some of these items that were in the comprehensive plan, some of the things that are going to help us reduce the tax burden, and really helping developers come into our town as we look at different areas that we can develop, because taxes are going up. We have some uncontrollable factors in that with the Sagatok County and with our school districts. We don't have control over those things, but we do have control over the growth of our town and how we can implement certain things. So this is a much bigger picture, and I think a much bigger palette for a lot of us to really discuss, and something for us to stay more prized of moving forward. But I do think it's worth bringing this to the planning board and having those conversations with them and having Mark move forward with them to address a lot of these things and to make Sure that we stay on track and to make sure that we are addressing some of these comprehensive plan needs or wants or desires of the people in our town because that is important. That's why we're here. That's what we serve. And there's a thousand different ways that we can accomplish it. And just because it seems like we're not gonna follow through with one of those ideas doesn't mean this whole thing's over. Or I think that it just, we draw more attention to other ways to accomplish the same thing. [30:20] Select Board Chair: That's all I have. And that was a woke generator that compares the things that we have, a big large three code book, lots of them do there, comparing each other in there, so sometimes we can't go [30:32] Select Board member: through that and find boxes to continue with. But there was a, there was a lot of really good things that came out of the comprehensive plan in implementation committee, and I would like to recognize Susan and the committee for that. There was a lot of really good things and they are worth considering. And I do think that we need to take the best that came out of that and we do need to implement it. We do have a code that's written that's got us so far in our town and we've had it for 50 years. And I do think it probably is time to look at it and really look at some of the contradictions or some of the things that are too limiting for residents that live here or what they want to do on their property. Things have changed, like allowing ADUs, you know, this is a whole new factor. And there's a lot of things that have changed over the past 10 years. So it is time to relook at it and take an idea of what we can do with our current code, bring in the best of the best ideas, implement that, go through it, clean it up, redline it, underline it, however we want to do it. But it is worth doing all of this because our town does matter. The people in the town matter. We're all people that live in this town and we all want to see the best for the town just like everybody else that lives here. So big topic tonight. I personally want to take this as a, because it is a big deal and it's important, let's spend money. [31:54] Select Board Chair: That sounds a big problem for him and the book is there, documents are there, you know, we can't continue with that and go through it piece by piece. That wasn't compromised being made with the meetings and there was a disagreement in the meetings. That's fine, it's what we'll do, but it just happens that they didn't feel like they're getting anywhere. It's sorry to say that, but I put spit in one of their meetings coming up developing the plan, the wall out there. I remember when they developed that, the one come in there's all record all of this so i hate to lose this i hate to see them relying i've heard them to come back and fight and continue this food but it's their choice any [32:48] Select Board member: other comments? Oh, I agree that there are, there are some, there are some good things in the recode. There's also good things in our current code, and I think by meshing those two, you know, when like Ryan said, editing or, you know, whatever language you want to use, you can update or just modernize or whatever. I think there are pieces that we could use and we should use, but it's, it's going to take a lot of, you know, cooperation, which I thought we would get it. I was a little surprised when it took a sudden turn, but I think it's important that we continue doing it. I don't think we just, you know, throw it out. I think we need to keep doing what we've been doing, whether of the CPICs involved or not. I think we've got to continue the work like Brian said, yeah. [33:40] Select Board Chair: You think about that initial phase when it started out and all the participation we had, and there was a lot of interest, and I think there was a lot of excitement, and it would be a shame not to let those thoughts that were brought to us at that point, yeah, at least take the ones that are at least high priority, make sure we're ever focused on getting them done, very time sensitive and [34:02] Select Board member: And there's things that people are going to agree with and not agree with, but ultimately we have to do what's in the best interest of this town and what's best suited for development and all of those things. It's kind of like the process of how we accomplish certain things. And I know some of the need is more walkable, more bikeable town. We want to do those things. In order to do that, it's going to cost a lot of money, a lot of taxpayer money. Instead of doing that first, is there ways to help make sure that we have the developers that want to come here to bring in additional tax revenue for us so that we can reduce the tax burden and still have money to bring in more walkable streets and more bikeable streets? I'm not saying or suggesting that's the order of operations in this scenario, but there are things that we can do and it is kind of delicate. One thing will feed the other, that's right, and one thing we can't do is just over extend. The tax burden on the people here, because I don't know about you guys, but I get enough emails and stories about some of the retired elderly having to sell their houses because they can't afford their taxes here anymore, and that breaks my heart because I've been here for 40 years and when I retire I want to retire here and when I'm 70 I don't want to have to sell my house that I've lived in for 50 plus years at that time to because I can't afford to live here, but it's an incredible place. Thompson is an incredible town and we have to maintain that status, but we also have to make it workable and livable for everybody that currently lives here while we're trying to bring in and attract additional people, and we have to recognize what Thompson stands for, what Thompson represents, and what Thompson is, and we need to keep that, and that to me, that's an important factor, that tradition and that backbone of what we are in our identity, we keep that while we bring in other people and build. Upon those traditions and build upon our culture, and that's how we create a town worth living in for everybody. [36:04] Select Board Chair: In my mind, I haven't received any emails yet, I don't go to the store, I get jumped on every now and then and so on, yeah, why did you do my taxes here, read the black box, I don't know if we build. [36:17] Select Board member: Is there a motion that's going to be amazing? I mean, I don't agree with the agreement, we can split. [36:22] Select Board Chair: This into, so yeah, I think that makes sense, so we're not going to accept the resignation. [36:29] Speaker B (unidentified): With regret and say and dissolve the, that comes up later on, no, that's not, that's part. [36:37] Select Board member: Of the resignation is the team is the team at this is an ad hoc committee, it's not a permanent the community. So the question is until we make, I'm not saying it's not going to come back, I'm just saying for like the next month or two while they're trying to figure out what to do with the planning board or the other part of this, when the entire team resigned it was dissolved. And so the question is are we going to acknowledge the dissolution or are we going to say no how that the team still needs to be there. I don't know what your opinions are, I'm just putting it out there to make a decision. I [37:13] Select Board Chair: think we just recognize they've got done, but I don't think I want to [37:17] Select Board member: resolve it yet. Okay, you do realize it's ad hoc though, it's not just a temporary. And so when they [37:23] Speaker B (unidentified): all resigned that temporary that went away. You could suspend the meetings or something for some [37:28] Select Board member: period of time if you just don't want to go, that doesn't mean the process, it doesn't mean the process. So if the charge is still no, at some point this board is going to have to reactivate it and give them a charge. And by this point of clarification, by dissolving it now it dissolves the current charge as it sits. Yes, and that's an important note, because if we were to bring on or create or have another cpc committee with new people, we would have to, I guess we could make a new charge at that point, but instead of carrying an old charge we would bring on a new charge. That would be the benefit of dissolving the current cpc, correct, but the current charge only to bring on a new charge with the new committee when the time is right, at the time it's right, and it could be any time, it could be in two weeks or four weeks. It's just that the current charges is [38:17] Select Board Chair: what I'm here for you with the nation, there's nobody there now, there's nobody there, it's [38:21] Speaker B (unidentified): being dissolved by itself. I wouldn't say that except there are conditions and [38:28] Select Board Chair: and the reason is I'm [38:32] Speaker B (unidentified): not, I'm sorry, I'm not sorry mr which is we take the resignation [38:36] Select Board Chair: condition in regret and without the way there that basically is always on. Okay, I don't think [38:42] Speaker F (unidentified): we need to say this at all, do we? Well second so far here, that's just how all the [38:48] Select Board member: jay works as a board, we have to either keep the committee or not keep the committee, that's my only point. I'm not saying we should do either one, I'm just saying that's what we have to do. I mean, if you just leave it hanging, you could theoretically have someone apply next week and then you do an interview and try to, they may not know what they're applying for. Not every town has a comprehensive plan to implement, implementation committee, because as board member Callahan, you know, normally that job actually rests in the planning board and they're supposed to be making sure it gets implemented. So we don't necessarily have a vacancy in Juby's by dissolving this ad hoc committee, you could certainly start a new one. If the planning board says, hey, we're having trouble keeping up with all our duties. We need some help. Can we have a secret? You can do that in the future. So, it probably would be cleaner at this point to acknowledge the fact that since everyone's left, there isn't a committee and then just wait if there's interest in demand, which we started afterwards. [39:53] Speaker B (unidentified): No, the 2nd part is about the future of recovery planning, and that will be the committee short time. No, but we can, we can continue this process with it without. [40:06] Select Board member: They seem right correct. It's not, you know, we wouldn't have to put a new mini in place to continue. We could we could go. It's actually, I mean, specifically, it says in the ordinance, the planning board's job is to read the comprehensive plan and propose ordinances to help follow it. But town staff are supposed to be following the plan and try to come up with things. The select board's supposed to be trying to make sure we follow the plan. So it's not that there's no one left to do this duty if the committee is dissolved. Now, with that said, did the committee write worth? Absolutely. Absolutely. They had that long matrix of all different things that here's ways you can do it. So it's certainly helpful to have them, but I think it's probably a good time to restart and it just let's let that committee end since there's no one that wants to be on it right now [40:56] Speaker B (unidentified): and they accomplished their charge right by doing the plan well they would have made the whole [41:00] Select Board member: conference they certainly did some work on it but I think it makes sense to let's put that to bed see how things try to get figure out what we're doing the recode is the biggest piece and then meanwhile, staff, though, let's say Tedford Road, the work that we're all doing, so like board and staff, everyone else, to try to get a side look on Tedford Road is certainly something that the comprehensive plan looks for if we're increasing pedestrian access in town. So it's not like we're not working on a comprehensive plan by not having seen it. But if you all of a sudden get a bunch of people say we'd like to have a new committee in the future, then you can consider it and think about it or do it. Mr. Chair, we do have a emotional. [41:45] Select Board Chair: Trying to figure it over to make it to make it work, but you wanted to make it go on. [41:49] Select Board member: Oh, just that the ad hoc CPA committee is not. [41:55] Speaker B (unidentified): Just if I don't need to solve today, acknowledging they're held behind. [42:02] Select Board Chair: Deliverables for this group at this time, actually. [42:05] Select Board member: I mean, you could say start with your emotion that you regretfully accept the residency pick and uses all of them in school and then we as well at this time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [42:20] Speaker F (unidentified): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it's up to you to say it's good or not we're all in agreement so what was this can we repeat the motion one more time there's not a second half we're going to accept the resignations [42:35] Select Board Chair: respectfully and not regrets and that the CPAC committee is basically this all this time second okay motion and second all in favor carries [42:51] Select Board member: So now with the future of recode and that's how it's written in here. Can we simply charge you as the town manager to work with the planning board on the recommended changes? changes you could say if you wanted that's in general you could say something like so we authorized or instruct the town manager to speak with the planning board along the terms outlined in his memo yeah that's good [43:34] Select Board Chair: right yes i like that one [43:41] Speaker F (unidentified): yeah you're just critical moving forward all right i'll make a motion i would make a motion [43:47] Select Board member: that the select board charge our town manager to work with the planning board on the on the I find it the items listed in his memo for continuing work towards recode and the congregants of plant that's [44:12] Select Board Chair: good all right my motion second move to second and all in favor great [44:20] Speaker B (unidentified): okay no one's jumping waving your hand I make a motion that we adjourn this [44:28] Select Board member: meeting yeah i just wanted one thing i don't i don't know so as far as the funds that are in that account so it's before they consult and everything if there's any residual amounts if they don't get used can be reallocated for other things in relation to so i guess my when taxpayers are saying jesus we've got all this money now it's a waste we got the it's not because it's it could be used for things related to this not specifically for the consultant but This we had been budgeting about 50,000 a year in the planning department for consultants. Some of that money was paying for the recode consultants. It also paid for, there was a consultant how we write our shoreline zoning last year, that came out of that pool. It could be used for the town engineer to pay for him to review something. So it isn't, it's never been just wanted it up, it's not being wasted, it's never just for that, right? We intentionally budgeted low for that this year because we had some you carried over from last year so there's about roughly just from carry over about 50 000 it is tiff money so we can only spend it for basically consultants that help economic development or can be argued to help development but if it doesn't get spent it and we're not doing recode anymore so we don't see a big need for consultants we'd probably at the end of the budget year we would not ask to carry it over it would let it flow back to the tiff that it came out of the reserve on that tip i just want that clarified because I've been asked sometimes. Good morning. But the money won't be spent unless needed to but it is there if we need it for consultants for kind of any purpose that could be related to economic development. Thank you. So [46:15] Speaker B (unidentified): your motion, the motion is already on the floor [46:17] Select Board Chair: Board to adjourn the meeting. Second. Move to second. All in favor.