Bangor Cultural Commission approves $8,997 in arts grants

[2:25] Speaker A (unidentified): Good morning. [2:30] Speaker B (unidentified): Hi, how's it going? Good, how are you, Jen? I am good. I, it's my first Zoom, so I [2:42] Speaker A (unidentified): don't know how that works. Oh, they'll hopefully be able to get the everything connected there [2:49] Speaker B (unidentified): in the council chambers yeah we can hear you 're good oh perfect oh good to know all right [2:59] Speaker C (unidentified): I have to hop off at 9, I'm so sorry. That's fine, we will, let's, I have the [3:09] Speaker D (unidentified): ability to move the agenda around, right? Yeah, great. We're gonna do the grant part first, which actually is not officially on the agenda, but that is, oh yeah, we'll just move that up, we'll do that first so that everybody who's here can do that, and we can make sure to get it done before Maria has to hop on. Before we dive into any discussion from the grant committee, and ask our one attendee to speak, I want to just say that I will have to retain myself from voting, because I'm a board member of AIGA. And AIGA is one of the applicants, and I want to be clear that I did not participate in writing this application, but right, I still need to not vote. I think I can be in the room for the discussion, but I also, I want to be very official about this, and the commission should take a vote that you [4:11] Speaker E (unidentified): you have a conflict, just so it's on record. [4:14] Speaker F (unidentified): Well, I have a conflict, too, maybe if I don't need it, not at all. [4:20] Speaker D (unidentified): No. All right. It's going to be down on our voting members today, but I think we still have quorum. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Do we need to have a motion? Does it have to be separate motions? [4:32] Speaker E (unidentified): They can be together if there's total agreement with everybody. [4:35] Speaker F (unidentified): Does that mean we can't vote on any of them, or just when that one comes up? [4:39] Speaker E (unidentified): It should be, just because you're looking at them as a whole, you might want to see it as, do you know what I mean? I do. [4:48] Speaker F (unidentified): Yeah. But I was confused last time. I know. [4:54] Speaker D (unidentified): Yeah. It's not always totally official. And we do sometimes make decisions individually and sometimes we kind of take a look at the whole bucket and then decide how much you need. [5:05] Speaker E (unidentified): Right, and that's where it was getting seen as problematic. [5:08] Speaker D (unidentified): I feel like we can be in the room for the discussion, but if someone else has a different opinion, happy to hear that opinion, thoughts, opinions, I can end, right? Yeah, but that's my thinking too, but I would like to hear the conversation and then if I need to step out for the actual vote I can, but also I don't want to [5:43] Speaker C (unidentified): vote, I don't know that I remember everyone on that list is the pops got theater on the list. [5:49] Speaker D (unidentified): They are not okay. They had a fall. Yes. Okay. Okay. Can I hear a motion or someone make a motion to allow that you that we have a conflict of interest for this particular grant year? [6:13] Speaker F (unidentified): I'll make a motion. I'll second that. I [6:19] Speaker D (unidentified): got a vote which is also now I don't think we can vote on this motion either. [6:23] Speaker A (unidentified): You just can I ask a quick question during discussion who is we because we can't see you [6:29] Speaker C (unidentified): guys so I'm not sure who we is why can't they see it now we're having a hard time with the video [6:36] Speaker D (unidentified): weird okay Nina and Cal both have a conflict of interest with okay [6:43] Speaker A (unidentified): applicants great thank you for clarifying that thank you for asking we redo the vote [6:56] Speaker D (unidentified): I thank you all right then I will go to Jen right on the grants committee yes great so first I just [7:16] Speaker A (unidentified): want to clarify because I haven't actually gotten clarification that we have eight thousand five hundred eighty one dollars to spend on grants is that correct I thought we [7:27] Speaker D (unidentified): had a thousand five hundred left over from the October budget and that was [7:32] Speaker A (unidentified): also be part of this and that does not currently show in our budget so we went based off of 85 81 and can you clarify that before me yeah I know I keep I keep tilting my head to read the budget. Sorry. [8:01] Speaker C (unidentified): There was 1000 for the space for the space rewards. So I think [8:08] Speaker E (unidentified): that's what I'm going to eat into that. So there may be 400 [8:15] Speaker D (unidentified): left. Yeah. Okay. But is that included in 8500? Or no? [8:21] Speaker C (unidentified): out no it's not okay yeah 416 40 transfer from okay so we have yeah 9 000. it's not quite almost right yeah we're gonna do this officially it's free coffee yeah it's like eight thousand nine Yeah. Yeah. They started at $997. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. What was that again? [8:56] Speaker E (unidentified): Oh, our camera's up. Thank you, Matt. Great. [9:02] Speaker D (unidentified): Jen, the difference was $416.40. So if you want to apply that. But also... [9:09] Speaker A (unidentified): Great. So we were going... We did everything based off of that $85.81. one. So I don't know if we want to just go kind of one by one through the grant applications in order that they were emailed out. And then we had a couple of follow-up questions for each of the organizations, but it sounds like not everybody has a presence at the meeting. Is that [9:44] Speaker D (unidentified): correct? That's correct. We have a representative here from Bangor Beautiful. Fantastic. So [9:49] Speaker A (unidentified): actually we that was the one that we had our primary questions no yes it is that we had primary questions for so maybe we can go ahead let's go ahead and start with Bangor beautiful [10:09] Speaker F (unidentified): this is [10:19] Speaker G (unidentified): An application for what will be our signature piece this year is the largest mural we'll be installing, and it's by far the most expensive mural we ever have installed. So we're really excited about it. If you could tell from the pictures in the application, it is located on 2 Hammond Street, which is where the Vancouver City, Vancouver Region Chamber of Commerce is located. It will be totally visible from the intersection section of Main Street, Central Street, Hammond Street. So it will be right in the heart of what we consider downtown, and so we're really excited. We're bringing up Rachel Gloria Adams from Portland. She's worked throughout the state. She's a really prolific and incredible muralist. We're having her create the mural on the theme of community, and we're integrating what will be submissions from local artists on the theme of Bangor into her mural. So that will tie in other artists from the area and our general sense of place and Bangor itself into her mural design, and really hoping that it will landmark our identity and our sense of place in right in the center of Bangor. And we're going to do this in August is what we're planning for. [11:55] Speaker A (unidentified): Great. So one of our questions was, do you have an idea of what the mural is going to look like? I know there's been, there were no like sketches or anything included because she was still working on it. Has she completed or at least gone through some of what the design will look like? [12:16] Speaker G (unidentified): Those will be coming in June. We're currently still accepting applications, and so any artists in the room we're watching can still submit through May 24th through our website, and those will go into her design that she should have completed at the end of June. We're expecting, you know, similar in her other styles to a sort of repetitive almost quilt-like organic pattern feel, but no, we don't have any sense. So what does it look like? And we're trying not to, we don't want to interfere in her creative process as well. [12:51] Speaker A (unidentified): Very good, thank you. You mentioned in the application that you'll have student involvement in creating the, or not creating, but in actually applying the mural. How will the students be involved? That didn't feel very clear. [13:09] Speaker G (unidentified): So the students will be participating by contributing the artwork, the patterns that will be incorporated into this design. We haven't finalized with Rachel yet whether or not she'll need any help painting the mural. It's a very tall mural, should be up on a lift, most of it, so it would be difficult probably for volunteers to assist, but the students would participate. [13:34] Speaker A (unidentified): Anticipate through the okay, and I think that clarifies. We had a question in the budget breakdown because we didn't have clarification on what the students would be doing. If we were anticipating that if they were helping with actually putting the mural up on the wall, that we didn't understand where the $50,000 for the contractor came from, but it sounds like she'll be doing the primary hours on that work. [14:10] Speaker G (unidentified): Yes, that $50,000 is her, well, exactly. So that includes installation, materials, lodging, travel. It's an all-inclusive number that we don't have a breakdown for, but that's what we need. Understood. [14:28] Speaker A (unidentified): I think that was the primary questions that we had regarding this application. If there are other applications or questions in the room. [14:41] Speaker D (unidentified): How much of that wall was it going to cover? The whole thing? That's great. It [14:51] Speaker G (unidentified): will cover the bump up. It's like a bump up. I think it will just cover the other portion, the main portion. Other questions? [15:18] Speaker A (unidentified): So remind me, Anne, when we go through each of these, do you want what our recommendation is for the each grant and then we'll vote at the end? Yeah, you could run through your [15:36] Speaker E (unidentified): recommendations, can add them up, and then and then ultimately the commission will either pass it as a group or an individual if there's any, you know, dissenter discussion. Okay, so going through [15:55] Speaker A (unidentified): each of the applications starting with the Bangor Ballet application, they had, sorry, I have too many pieces of paper in front of me. Bangor Ballet had requested five thousand dollars for their 2026 performance season. We recommended one thousand three hundred three dollars for that, recognizing that unfortunately because of our budget, we're not going to be probably able to fund any of the applications in full, but we did feel that their application met the guidelines of the application process very Similar to previous, almost exactly the same as previous applications from them that we have funded in the past, and felt like based on their community involvement and the their performances in the area that would warrant a 1303 recommendation. Next, Bangor Ballet. Nope, I just said Bangor Ballet. Bangor Beautiful for the mural that we just discussed. We were recommending another one thousand three hundred $103 toward that application. They also had requested $5,000. The Maine Academy of Modern Music, another request for $5,000. We recommended $1,500 for that program. We did have some follow up questions for them about their marketing plans and the number of students in the Bangor or area that they actually serve, but we weren't able to get a response back in time for that. [18:08] Speaker D (unidentified): We might want to check previous records because they've applied for this in the past. They have. It's very similar to last year's application. And I think we asked that same question last year also. [18:20] Speaker C (unidentified): And maybe we got an answer. I can't remember, I might have notes. Yeah, I can read them or not, it's not a question. [18:27] Speaker A (unidentified): Do you want us to keep moving forward while you look through your notes? Sure. Great. So Bangor Community Theater made a request of $2,000 for an upcoming production. We recommended $1,000 for that. The American Institute of Graphic Arts had requested $1,250 for their grant application. And based on that, we recommended funding that in full at the $1,250. And the Bangor Historical Society had requested $2,225. We did have just a follow-up question for them about the security. It looked like the bulk of this $2,225 was actually going towards security. And our concern was what if they didn't receive the funds from us, would they still, was the security primarily for the artifacts, and so kind of what exactly security was going to be for, where it was going to be coming from, and what happens if we weren't able to fund it, but our recommendation was to fund that one in full at the $22.25. None of this accounts for that extra $400 because we didn't know we had that. I [20:09] Speaker C (unidentified): found the answer. Yay. If we back up to the number of kids served in Bangor last year, we asked them and they said between 13 and 20 kids in Bangor. [20:19] Speaker A (unidentified): 13 to 20 kids. [20:20] Speaker C (unidentified): Which is huge if you can for music lessons, it's giving a lot of kids an opportunity. [20:29] Speaker D (unidentified): Jen, can we run through those amounts again because as you were saying them to in my calculator they add up to 7,200 so did I so [20:42] Speaker A (unidentified): Bangor Ballet 1303, Bangor Beautiful 1303. My calculator's not working. Main Academy of Modern Music 1500, BCT Bangor Community Theater a thousand. [Speaker F (unidentified): Aigi.] 1250 and Bangor Historical Society 2225 is 85 81, right? Yeah, 85 81, perfect. So we, as the Commission, can decide if or where we'd like to apply that additional $400, whatever it was, $416.40, based on the applications. [21:53] Speaker D (unidentified): Does anybody have a recommendation or a question? [22:02] Speaker C (unidentified): I know in the past we've split it like in between the ones that didn't get funded, like to do it fairly. It's not a lot to split, so we have three [22:15] Speaker A (unidentified): organizations that did not get fully fun, no, for, I'm sorry, for, so if we split that for 1460 divided by 4, that's 103 65 that we could add to each of those. I [22:40] Speaker H (unidentified): feel like that makes sense rather than splitting hands too much further to just go ahead and divide it up like the four organizations that make sense to me could [22:50] Speaker B (unidentified): we hold on to the money [22:51] Speaker D (unidentified): in the budget? That's a good question. We can, I, my update will come after. I don't think we should. I think there's a pretty good chance that we will get additional grant funding for next year, and so given that we can't fully fund everything that we received applications for, my recommendation would be not to hold on to the money for next [23:18] Speaker E (unidentified): year. I'd rather give it away now. Any unspent funds goes into back into the general fund, so unless you have an open contract that goes into the next fiscal school year, all of those funds that are unspent don't carry over. I also think there's something [23:42] Speaker A (unidentified): to be said that if we, you know, we've requested additional funds each year from the city, and if we're not spending what we have, then I can see them making the argument that you're not spending what you have, so why should we give you more? Absolutely. Of the four remaining ones, like [24:03] Speaker I (unidentified): what, like percentage of their application did we suggest money for? Because some were like, we gave, I think we gave the theater like 50 of what they asked for, but then others [24:16] Speaker D (unidentified): class. Yeah, I think both Bangor Ballet and Bangor Beautiful asked for $5,000 and we funded or we're discussing $1,300. So that's less than 50%. Yes. Whereas like Bangor Community Theater, [24:34] Speaker A (unidentified): they requested $2,000. We're recommending funding at $1,000. So they are at 50%. And then the Main Academy of Modern Music, they requested 5 000, we recommended 1500, so it's a little bit more than the other two, but still well under 50. So you [25:00] Speaker D (unidentified): could instead of splitting the 400 between the four, split it between Bangor Ballet and Bangor Beautiful to get them closer to 1500. [25:10] Speaker I (unidentified): Yeah, that's what I was. Yeah. [25:14] Speaker G (unidentified): That's a great idea. Yeah. So [25:20] Speaker A (unidentified): Then that would put each of Bangor Ballet and Bangor Beautiful at $1,510.30, keeping the Main Academy of Modern Music at $1,500, BCT at $1,000, AIGI at $1,250, and the Historical Society at $2,225. [25:55] Speaker D (unidentified): Do we have to vote on this? Yes, there should be a motion and then a second and then a vote. [26:03] Speaker C (unidentified): can I motion it yeah I was gonna ask are we allowed to motion it with you guys here or no I don't know I don't know who spice chair yeah okay Yeah, I'll make a motion. I don't mind if you guys are here. I second that I'll make a motion that we accept it as stated right through. [26:34] Speaker F (unidentified): Yeah. Okay, great. Great. Excellent. [26:45] Speaker E (unidentified): Can I ask, Jennifer, can you just walk through the numbers one more time? Just so I make sure I have them right for the record. [26:55] Speaker A (unidentified): Yes. So we will be funding Bangor Ballet and Bangor Beautiful at 15, 10, 30. Got it. Main Academy of Modern Music at 1500, Bangor Community Theatre at $1,000, AIGI at $1,250, and the Bangor Historical Society at $2,225. [27:22] Speaker C (unidentified): Okay, thank you. You're welcome. [27:26] Speaker E (unidentified): Jen, thank you so much for working on this. Absolutely. [27:30] Speaker B (unidentified): Absolutely, nice work. I know there was a lot. Thank you to everyone else on the committee. [27:37] Speaker A (unidentified): We had a little bit of a rough meeting, but we made it work. We did all right. Thanks everybody. [27:43] Speaker E (unidentified): So what happens in here in terms of process is I'll take this to these recommendations the next business and economic development committee in May and then it goes to full, then they make a recommendation to full city council thereafter. [28:03] Speaker A (unidentified): Does it help to have a representative from the commission at both of those meetings? [28:11] Speaker E (unidentified): At least at business and economic development, I'm just looking at the calendar. [28:16] Speaker A (unidentified): I was going to say, if you can let me know when that is, if I'm able to be there, I will be. [28:22] Speaker E (unidentified): It'll be May 18th. [Speaker A (unidentified): At what time?] The it's it's committee night we call it where all the council committees meet and they start at 5 15 but I'm not sure where we'll get you know in the in the queue. [28:42] Speaker A (unidentified): I will be there at 5 15 but I will need to leave probably at 6 15 so if anyone else is available to be there in case that section runs past 6 15. [28:59] Speaker C (unidentified): I can I can if you need me to that would be lovely yeah I can I can be there thank you that's the best I'm not the one who prevents [29:10] Speaker D (unidentified): It given that I didn't vote but also I mean I think we did this as officially as we possibly come so that's fine all right any other Grant spring Grant questions cool [29:31] Speaker G (unidentified): Thank you [29:32] Speaker C (unidentified): Everyone I gotta go see you next month bye all right let's do meeting minutes [29:42] Speaker E (unidentified): Oh, the ones from the first, I know I wasn't able to put those in before today's meeting. I finished them last night, but yeah, we'll do them next month. That's all good and [29:56] Speaker D (unidentified): I think we have the, do we have the April minutes in this packet? Yes, yeah. [30:10] Speaker C (unidentified): I need them either, I saw some of the follow-ups from former grants. That was really good to [30:19] Speaker E (unidentified): see, I liked that. Yeah, I'll make sure those are in next month's April minutes, okay? I thought [30:26] Speaker D (unidentified): they were in that, my report. Do you have things for this month? Kelly and I went to city council meeting last Wednesday, two days ago, and we asked them for money, and it went really well. Nothing official yet, as we know budget goes through many iterations, but meetings and discussions, final budget probably won't available or decided on until the end of June, but the general consensus from the city council was that we should have more money, and I think the approach that Anne recommended of asking for the same from the general budget and then asking for additional from the tiff budget is very well received i think there's There were several voices among city council in support of all the great work that we do. And they really heard. I mean, the numbers that I presented is this year we had requests for, I think, $34,000 and were only able to give $20,000. Last year it was $33,000 and were able to give $20,000. The year before it was $29,000 and were able to give $20,000. So we've been getting more and more requests for many years, as you all know. And so we won't know exactly how much they're funding until late in June, but they were receptive to both the additional TIF money for the grant bucket, and some of that may also go to projects that we could do next year. And then also the amount for the survey, the asset survey and strategy, I think that approach also was very well received of actually put a little money into this and make a big strategic plan, actually do something official rather than just walk around surveying, because there's been a lot of additions over the past few years, and I think some of the counselors are recognizing that what we support with both the programming and the stuff that we do and the grants really supports this town in great ways city and is for many people who both live here and visit here, and it's all very popular. So we won't know exactly how much, but generally I felt really good about the meeting, and we won't have to go back probably to the tiff evening in june because we did the whole thing all in one go. So I felt pretty good. Any questions about thank [33:21] Speaker B (unidentified): you for doing that? Yeah, welcome. [33:24] Speaker C (unidentified): And thank you for killing journey. It was interesting to say that it was, it was a really good reception I thought, and they even brought up stuff that you know we had asked for funding money before and they couldn't give us before, and I thought that you know just the fact that they remembered that, you know I think maybe that had said you know what did you ask for before that we didn't fund it, that was they asked to do the calendar because someone had come to the commission and asked to have printed calendar, and they even brought up like maybe putting that calendar on the new kiosks that are going to be put downtown, and I just thought that was cool that they're actually you know. Yeah, it felt very positive, and it felt like they were engaged. [34:11] Speaker D (unidentified): Financial report, we just spent all the money, it's good. All right, you don't have to be great committee that the culprit committee have anything? I think, I think I spent a little time [34:30] Speaker F (unidentified): on the website seeing what was there and just refreshing my memory. It's not as, it's not the information is fairly current, it's not as old as I thought it was, and it didn't look too bad. I can see some places where things could be added, but you know I thought that I was, I was pleased with that. So I think it hinges on grant money to move forward, so I think we're holding that. [35:06] Speaker D (unidentified): Artober, I think I just saw a text from Sunny, no Artober updates. I know Artober committee wants to meet, it didn't happen this month. We will send out another doodle sometime in may to meet and start talking about the fall, just so we're a little ahead of the game. Usually we try to put out the call for nominations for the Arts Award in July with an August deadline, so if we can preempt that a little bit and maybe either publish it earlier or just make sure that we have discussions about the possible jurors and just start planning. But we do have a pretty good system in place now for all the things that need to get done, the planning that we've done the past [36:02] Speaker A (unidentified): Few years. All right, Nina. Yeah, could we do take just five minutes to talk generally about grants committee? Yeah, of course, thanks. So one of the things that's been discussed, or there's a couple things that have been discussed, first the scope of what the grants are for based on feedback from the city councilors. So we've talked about trying to get clarity on that before our next grant cycle. Additionally, our current grant reporting that is coming in sometimes seems a little bit like it's lacking. We're missing consistently some information. And we talked about potentially updating what that grant application looks like, so that we're getting the information that we need without a lot of extra information that we maybe don't need. So that's something that I want to go ahead and set up another kind of grants subcommittee meeting over the next month or so, that we are preparing ahead of the next grant cycle and we can have it ready to roll out in plenty of time for those organizations that apply with our fall cycle and know that it's coming so they have time if there's new information that we're trying to gather. Additionally, we talked about applying for outside grants for some of our projects, so that would be something that we would be working toward support as well, is identifying those grants and getting application materials pulled together on our behalf so that we're ready to get those sent out in plenty of time for the deadlines. When we looked at some outside grants when we met in March, we just didn't have time. Two weeks is not enough time for us to pull together a grant application and have it be worth anything, and we don't want to put our hat in the ring and get declined because a lot of them have then timelines where you can't apply with their next cycle if you've been declined. So if anybody has any interest in joining us and helping out with grants, even if you can't be at every single meeting, that's okay, but it is something that we're going to continue you working on throughout the year instead of just waiting until right before the grant cycle starts. [38:43] Speaker D (unidentified): Any questions for the grant committee? All right, I think just keep every time you have a meeting, keep sending the doodle to everybody so that if you happen to have time one month, even if you're not officially on the grants committee or not able to join all the meetings, like Jen said, it would be great to have a lot of people on that committee so that we can share the workload, because putting together grant applications is a lot of work, but also the more we do it, the less work each of them is. Because we'll be able to pull together a lot of the same [39:18] Speaker A (unidentified): documentation. And for me, because I, my background is in performing arts, I know about grants for performing arts, but I don't always know about other grants that might be out there. So it's helpful to have a lot of different people who can help identify those grants. Yeah. [39:44] Speaker F (unidentified): All right. There too, should we be looking for grants while also hoping for more money from the city? Yes. Yes. So it's earnest. Exactly. Okay. [39:57] Speaker D (unidentified): Yeah, and they did ask about that at the council meeting, and I was honest about the fact that we've been trying, we've been looking, we've applied for a few and have not received them, but also it's difficult because our operating budget is so small that it actually disqualifies us from a lot of grants. So our operating budget is a little higher with some additional funding, then that may put us just one step higher and open up a few other opportunities for us. [40:29] Speaker A (unidentified): And if you ever see a grant, even if you're like, oh, I just saw it and the application is due in a week, so we can't do it, send it to us anyway, because we're starting a calendar that's going to have grant cycles on it. So even if we can't apply this year, if it is a good one, that we can continue to look at it for next year. [40:55] Speaker D (unidentified): Perfect. I was just going to ask if you're doing that. Yes. Yeah, that's great. Right, because we do still have to, each time we want to apply for a grant, we still have to get permission from City Council to actually do the application. And so that adds to the timeline. We can be putting stuff together, but we can't submit it until we have permission. And so the more advanced notice we have of grants, the better. [41:19] Speaker A (unidentified): Yeah, really the minimum is at least a month because the City Council doesn't meet, you know, they don't meet every day. Day, so we have to get on their agenda to be able to get that permission. So that's why a month is really kind of the minimum that we need. [41:39] Speaker D (unidentified): And I think most of these grants that are regular grants work on the same cycle each year, same as ours, right? Like, that's generally pretty consistent, so if we know now for next year, great. Great, any other grant questions? All [41:59] Speaker C (unidentified): right, thank you. I'm excited. [42:03] Speaker D (unidentified): I already gave my budget hearing updates. I don't think we have other, are there other questions about budget? We are now also going to be in a holding pattern until the end of June. [42:18] Speaker E (unidentified): Staff updates, no stuff updates, just the budget. So they do consider all of you know the different requests at the end of their process. So I think they have an extra meeting in June right before they take action that they kind of walk through all the program requests, so I'll let you know the date of that because you may want to be at that one. [42:50] Speaker D (unidentified): Yeah. Unless the date has changed, I think I have it on my calendar. Yeah, June 8th. But yeah, let me know if that changes. I'm happy to attempt them. All right. Today is First Friday. If you can make it down town, walk around, look at art. Anything else happening in town? [43:32] Speaker C (unidentified): Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think it's tonight. Okay, maybe I'm off on the base. Yeah, but I think they're starting back up now. [43:43] Speaker H (unidentified): Important Spooky Goods is having a grand opening today. Barlemans is opening their outdoor patio. [43:52] Speaker G (unidentified): There's a lot going on, there's a lot going on. [43:54] Speaker E (unidentified): Yeah, tomorrow is the Jane Jacobs walk. There's three different walks, one at 10, one at 12, I think it's at noon, and then one at one o'clock. So yeah, different aspects of the city. [44:11] Speaker C (unidentified): And I think different people leading them too. Yeah, where does that mean? Well, it depends the [44:19] Speaker E (unidentified): one at 10, Emily Burnham's doing, and that starts right out here. Okay, and then the one that with the theater, I think starts at the theater, and then there's one, is it one o'clock, Matt, the afternoon at the waterfront, and that starts at the waterfront over by CW. [44:42] Speaker D (unidentified): You guys do exactly where? Okay, yeah, it's on the Downtown My Girl Partnership account. [44:51] Speaker A (unidentified): There's more information there, also On Golden Pond opens with Bangor Community Theater tonight. How nice, they're doing that at the Columbia Street Baptist Church. Nice, yeah. [45:07] Speaker H (unidentified): I had tickets to Garbologist's today, not the tickets we got to give away for tonight's [45:16] Speaker C (unidentified): prize, it's ticket circle. Oh nice, I thought I loved it. Well, lots [45:25] Speaker D (unidentified): happening in town. I hope I see you all somewhere, and anybody who might be listening, yes. Okay, I adjourned the meeting. [45:34] Speaker A (unidentified): Oh, sorry, I had one quick question. We were going to discuss scheduling of the meetings and whether we might consider a different day slash time for our monthly [45:53] Speaker D (unidentified): meetings. Yeah, I'm still waiting to hear when this space is available. Yeah, I mean, [46:00] Speaker E (unidentified): mean, basically, it's sort of, you know, on Tuesdays, I mean, Monday nights, this rooms, it doesn't matter what Monday, this is always a council night in here. And then on Tuesday, planning board meets twice a month, but there's, there's the weeks in between. So this, so if you need a Tuesday, oh, yeah, okay I can't do Tuesdays. Wednesday the school committee is in here, but again they don't meet every Wednesday, so you could do an off Wednesday with the school committee, and the same thing with Thursday with historic preservation. They meet twice a month or just once a month, but also the parks and rec committee meets on the same night right before them, because that's always available to like if you wanted to meet at 5 o'clock even if planning board is meeting at 7 as long as you're done by 630, you know, you can still meet on the same night. Generally one hour is enough [47:14] Speaker D (unidentified): for these meetings once a month. I do want to make sure that I include everybody who's on the commission in this decision. Can you find out like a doodle? Yeah, I'd love to do a doodle. I'm happy to run it if you don't have the capacity, but I need to know which, yeah, like the first week or the second week of the third week, I mean our Wednesdays or Thursdays auctions around between five and seven for people who are in the room. Is the goal to make it an evening meeting versus a morning meeting? I think there were concerns that 8 30 to 9 30 doesn't work for everybody because of course people have to have work commitments that start at nine [47:59] Speaker I (unidentified): unless during the semester after I'm certainly internship school, so this will be that will be [48:14] Speaker D (unidentified): I don't know about, I don't think I could do earlier. Eight to nine would be tough for people to do, and then if you have something work that starts at 9, it's hard to get there in time. So we were looking at evening because I think it might be easier for a larger group, but everybody has a voice in this. You want to make sure it works for the most people, so if there are no-goes, then definitely voice that. I think a doodle will be the most effective way to figure out what works for us. [48:49] Speaker A (unidentified): Yeah, I for me, because I'm the one who kind of had brought this up, I don't object to daytime meetings. Fridays during the day are difficult, but I'm open to, I don't, I don't want anybody to feel like, well, we have to move it to an evening meeting if daytime works better for the group. That's okay. Which if we could just look at a different day of the week or maybe a different time, that would be great. Is Thursday mornings an option? Yeah, absolutely. I can't do Thursday mornings, but like Tuesday or Wednesdays I could do in the morning. Okay. [49:32] Speaker D (unidentified): Okay. So I'll add a few more options. Doodles. Yeah. And then once we send it out, everybody, make sure you fill it out and be honest about your consistent availability. We don't want this to be difficult for anybody to have to make work. But there is an attendance requirement on the commission. You're supposed to be here. And right, we do have Zoom as an option if someone is traveling or something or there's some other reason for a complex, that's always fine, but we want to make sure that as many people as [50:11] Speaker C (unidentified): possible are able to attend as many meetings as possible. Every other Wednesday, but if we keep it the first week, every other Wednesday the second week of the month, I couldn't come, but if it's the first week of the month, that doesn't matter, so it also depends on what week of the month that is. Okay, yeah, we can add that to the Doodle. Yeah, great. [50:34] Speaker D (unidentified): We can also look at lunch time. That's harder for some people, but might be easier for others, so let's, yeah, let's throw a bunch of options in there and then we'll see what works best. Okay, all right, yeah, thank you for the reminder. Any other thoughts, [50:57] Speaker C (unidentified): questions, ideas? Oh, there is [51:00] Speaker E (unidentified): one more thing. I'm sorry, your June meeting, because of the election, the, election workers need this room for your June meeting, so I'm going to move you to the Paul Bunyan room, which is that larger conference room at the other end of the building. Day, yeah, and they can stream and everything in there through, so right, yeah, and that's the other thing, like not to add another like possibility, you can always meet in there, it's just it's smaller, so if you had a lot of people coming to the meeting for any reason, it might be a little [51:37] Speaker I (unidentified): tight, but that room is also available. Okay. [51:45] Speaker D (unidentified): We'll figure it out, hopefully maybe ahead of the next of meeting. I don't anticipate, we didn't want to move change it before this meeting because it was a publicized date because of the grants, but if we can find a new time ahead of the June meeting, I think that would be great. All right, all right, last call, other updates. Other thoughts? Anything else? Great. I adjourn the meeting. Thank you.